User talk:Atharsea

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I have finally figured out how to create a way to automatically generate a list of pranks in the format we have right now. You can try it out in the test bed and see if it works properly.--Admin 02:27, 22 June 2012 (CEST)

I used Semantic MediaWiki with an extension for it called Semantic Internal Objects. We can have the database in the "Prank wars" page for easy access and use the "All Pranks" page for testing. The help page is now updated for instructions on the new feature. The dates are changed to YYY-MM-DD format so the widths should be consistent. Everything should be all set now and ready for the list of pranks.--Admin 04:17, 22 June 2012 (CEST)
I didn't realize the date column is rendered differently in different browsers. Fx rendered the date as one line. I fixed the width and aligned the text in the table to the top of the cell. For the list of pranks in "All Pranks", the pranks are listed there, you just need to sort the list by date. I have added that in for you.--Admin 08:14, 22 June 2012 (CEST)
Thanks for finishing up the list. Having the headers in bold instead looks fine. All tables should now have text aligned to the top.--Admin 06:15, 23 June 2012 (CEST)

Links update note[edit]

Hi Atharsea. I have recently updated the wiki and all links had unexpectedly changed from /wiki/index.php/ to /wiki/index.php?title=. The database does not update instantly so many pages will have links leading to the old address. Clicking the old address will lead you to the main page. You can fix this problem by editing the page and saving it without making any changes to the page. Doing this will instantly update the database and automatically update the links for the current page.--Admin 06:40, 17 July 2012 (CEST)

Please use participants full Minecraft names when adding pranks[edit]

Also, from the changes you made: "Please put what you write through a retard convertor, to get a poorly written description." Also, use participants full MC names? Feel free to explain why you use Etho instead of Ethoslab. B00 name is BDoubleO, NOT BDoubleO100. Also, thanks for updating the descriptions of the pranks I filled out, and rewritting them like an eight year old with a computer. Good job!

Since you aren't logged in as a user it is difficult to reply to your comment. The Prank Wars page (and the derivative pages of pranks involving a single participant) are part of a database. In order for the pages to query the database and display the pranks each member of the server is identified with a single name. This name is their Minecraft name (otherwise known as their in game name). If you don't know a members Minecraft name please check the Members of the MindCrack community page. BdoubleO's Minecraft name is BdoubleO100, which is why I changed what you had written. The descriptions were modified to be shorter and clearer about the nature of the prank. --Atharsea 03:39, 23 August 2012 (CEST)

A quicker way to update old video listings[edit]

Hello Atharsea,

I've been working on the adlingtont/videos page for his vanilla Season 2 recording sessions and I have quite a ways to go. Aside from watching the entirety of each and every video, do you know of a quicker means of gathering all the important points in each clip? --Aejrogota (talk) 07:19, 27 July 2013 (CEST)

Nope! (^▼^) You pretty much have to watch it through. Carefully, too.--Mega (talk) 08:22, 27 July 2013 (CEST)
Mega is right. Even members that put pretty accurate descriptions on their videos will leave out interactions, things they spend less time on, and stories which people will go back later and look for. I suppose for speed builds you could watch little segments so that you're able to put what they are speed building and if they do anything else. How you watch depends some on the members style of making videos. For most videos I'll tile windows or put the video on my second monitor while I work on something else while I watch. Thanks for working on video lists! --Atharsea (talk)
Well, it was worth hoping at least...also, no problem at all with writing the lists and thanks to both of you for the responses! I suppose that subscribing to the idea that patience is a virtue is quite important. :) --Aejrogota (talk) 18:59, 27 July 2013 (CEST)

VintageBeef's nicknames[edit]

Hi Atharsea,

The names on VintageBeef's video were used repeatedly by Shree (steakdude) and by adlington (ModernChicken) during their Season 2 videos. I understand that they are not seen anymore, which is why I added references to verify that he was indeed called these names. For VintageBœuf, he referred to himself by that name before in both Season 2 and in Ruins of the MindCrackers 2.

It, however, does clog the nickname listing. Perhaps I can add this information somewhere in the text of the article instead? --Aejrogota (talk) 21:32, 5 August 2013 (CEST)

Additionally. with regards to the ref names...I understand that it is against form to do so when so many references are already in place within the article itself so I do understand its removal. However, it is something I did while on Wikipedia to keep the article's text clean and more readable while editing, which is why it is the case in most of the articles I have written here. It also leaves things flexible in case the reference must be used again, its original stated purpose. I can stop doing this if such an activity is not welcome. --Aejrogota (talk) 21:35, 5 August 2013 (CEST)
I don't think that there is an "official" stance on ref names. I hadn't considered using them to clean up articles, and that might be a logical solution for areas that will likely be frequently edited. For the most part I think that it still doesn't make sense for things that are unlikely to be referenced multiple times, which is often most of what we refer to because information is split between videos. It also adds the difficulty of coming up with a unique ref name, and maintenance for making sure that that those references stay in a logical (alphabetical?) order so they can be found, and making sure that the reference moves with the content if it is relocated to another page.
Thanks for clarifying that the names were used regularly - I probably could have guessed that if I'd read the reference instead of just moving them around! Sorry about that! Because those nicknames for Beef aren't used frequently anymore I'd suggest moving them to a Trivia section (See Zisteau#Trivia for an example) where text can be added explaining that they were used during season 2. --04:55, 6 August 2013 (CEST)
I don't think that coming up with unique ref names is that difficult. Another neat perk of doing things that way is that when editing, you see the ref name listed by the item of note and when you check the reference list, all the ref names are neatly indexed instead of being spread out throughout the article's entirety. However, this only works out reliably if all the references in the article use the ref name parameter. Either way using the Ctrl+F or Apple+F function on the keyboard makes it easy to find anything as long as you know what you are looking for...this could mean searching for the place where the reference lies, or editing the page itself and seeking the corresponding ref name parameter in the references section. Accounting for the Find function means that doing either one is by preference entirely as long as the editor knows what he or she is looking for.
You have a good point with if content is moved to another page...However, as far as I can tell, this has only happened several times on this wiki, and only with video listings that don't inherently need to be cited anyway. Good Morning MindCrack and Zueljin's video listing come to mind at this moment.
The only potentially major issue I see if it befuddles editors who are unfamiliar with this format. Most of the articles I've worked with have been build articles with only one or two other editors, if any at all, working the page. If somebody new were to start developing build articles they may duplicate references or be unfamiliar with the ref name parameters already in use on the page.
Lastly, no problem with the clarification! Sometimes my edits are not entirely clear in intent or reason, so I don't mind explaining my actions (and changing them if they are wrong) if requested. I will move the information shortly and that issue should be well and resolved. --Aejrogota (talk) 09:03, 6 August 2013 (CEST)

Uploaded images[edit]

Something is odd with all the images you have uploaded. They are all a bit washed out compared to the originals. Compare my uploaded image with yours at File:Guude_skin_old.png.--Admin 19:32, 20 May 2014 (CEST)

It does sort of look that way in the thumbnails, but there doesn't seem to actually be any color variation between the one I uploaded, the one you uploaded, and a new download of the skin. I put all 3 in photoshop and there wasn't any actual color variation, nor does it look like there's a difference when viewed larger. --Atharsea (talk) 05:29, 21 May 2014 (CEST)
On Guude's arm, your image has the color rgb(247, 215, 163), but the actual color is rgb(252, 215, 162). Another skin for comparison is File:Miheyu_skin.png. On the arm, your image has the color rgb(75, 220, 94) but the actual has rgb(59, 217, 88).--Admin 06:50, 21 May 2014 (CEST)
I'm getting Guude's arm is as 252, 215, 162 for the image I uploaded, the two variations I downloaded from the wiki, and the new skin I downloaded. The Miheyu skin I uploaded is also rgb 59, 217, 88. I'm not sure why there would be any color discrepancies, since I never modified the color profile, just combined the front/back and full skin image into the format we use and exported it using the default settings before uploading them to the wiki. All the images are showing up as 8 bit/channel rgb png. Any ideas what might be causing the differences you're seeing? --Atharsea (talk) 08:47, 21 May 2014 (CEST)
I'm don't know why this is happening. I first noticed this when cycling through Guude's skins in the viewer but I have that fixed now. Can you try cycling through Kurt's skins and see there are any differences? The buzz cut skin is from your upload. If this problem is not visible on your end, can you send a base64 version of the buzz cut skin to me?--Admin 18:13, 21 May 2014 (CEST)
I'm not seeing the issue on Kurt's skin. I just used an online base64 converter, so I don't know how good it is. I've commented it out here, let me know if it works/if there is a different way I should get it to you.
Wow, this is confusing me immensely. I went onto another computer and can see no problem with the images. The problem is only visible on the computer I'm using. I don't understand how this can happen. Maybe my computer is rendering images slightly more different than others and is reading some extra information that's skewing your images.--Admin 01:50, 22 May 2014 (CEST)

Any differences in graphics drivers, browsers? I'm using Chrome. --Atharsea (talk) 02:30, 22 May 2014 (CEST)